My name is Joseph or KJ for short, (screen name: LordODiscipline); my 24/7 submissive goes by the screen name: subtleigh on-line.

We are a real life dominant/submissive couple currently living and working in southeastern US (formerly in the greater NY metropolitan area)..

We belong to several groups and count many among our friends, here (on line) and in real life who are a part of this "alternative lifestyle" known as BDSM.

Over the years we have found many views expressed within the life. Some on line, some in real life.

Diversity of opinion is one of the things that makes this life what it is: so rich in experience and in the peoples that populate it.

Since the inception of the internet, the ability to get the word out to those seeking something tangible in the area of BDSM has become rife. People either come out to the internet to learn, to play, or to fantasize.

Of late, there have been people who take the fantasy aspect of this interaction to an extreme that is unhealthy for the people they visit it upon. They portray their experiences, their longevity in the life, their experience in learning, their basic facts (age, statistics, abilities, etc.) as real life (when in fact they are not), and attempt to influence others in the way they behave, the friends they may (or may not have), and even interactions between themselves and their families.

For those of you who have knowledge of this lifestyle, those are some of the classic examples of manipulation that may lead to something worse ('definitive red flags').

Because this has happened to a friend of ours, I am posting this website in an effort to assist others in understanding the insupportable fantasies, foibles and (outright) lies that are propagated out here by these individuals and through the medium of the chat rooms, web boards and websites.

We do this in an effort to educate so that others may not experience the pain of making a friend one considers "real" and "true", only to find out later that they are lying without moral compunction in an effort to support their own waning egos.

Please feel free to look through the site, post comments and if we are wrong in anything you see here, feel free to offer correction.

But, please: If you intend to correct us in any way, have supportable proof available and please send it to:

lordodiscipline@msn.com

I am not about to accept anything without it, and you will be wasting our time.

Thank you.

© 2002 All Rights Reserved

Website & Graphics by my girl (subtleigh), with a special thanks to Tessa of Australia for the BDSM Debunking the Myths logo.